American Sniper (2014) - Clint Eastwood

[elfaria]

Vi-o filme ontem e tenho tenho uma opinião tão negativa que nem me atrevo a regista-la aqui
Sou um grande admirador da obra de Eastwood (muito antes do celebrado Bird que garantiu valeu a admiração de quase toda a gente) mas simplesmente acho este filme bem pior que o medíocre Zero Dark Thirty (outra obra de pura propaganda da superioridade dos Americanos) e sobre este tema (snipers) prefiro de longe o Enemy at the Gates (não por um ser sovético e outro americano mas por puras razões artísticas e formais). Agora compreendo perfeitamente o abandono de Spielberg
Para já deixo aqui a crítica da imprensa americana de destaque com a qual até agora mais me identifico... a quem isso possa interessar

Written by Jason Hall, the film is an account of the Iraq war as seen through the crosshairs of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, the real-life sniper whose four tours made him the most lethal marksman in U.S. history. Played by a bulked-up Bradley Cooper, Kyle has a patriotic cowboy swagger and keeps others, including his wife (Sienna Miller), at a distance — an ideal personality trait for someone who shoots from afar. As muddled as the film's message is at times, what's undeniable is the white-knuckle force of its opening scene. Kyle is perched on a rooftop when an Iraqi mother and child walk into the road. They seem harmless. But then the woman pulls out something that may or may not be a grenade and hands it to her son. In that terrifying split second, Kyle has to decide whether to pull the trigger. The rest of American Sniper could've used more of that moral ambiguity. But we hardly get to know how Kyle feels about what he does. (Where's his ''It's a hell of a thing, killing a man'' Unforgiven moment?) Instead, the film's just a repetition of context-free combat missions and one-dimensional targets. It isn't until the last half hour, when Kyle returns home haunted by his experience, that Eastwood finally tries to get under his hero's skin. It's too little, too late. C+

in Entertainment Weekly

[waltsouza]

Vi-o filme ontem e tenho tenho uma opinião tão negativa que nem me atrevo a regista-la aqui
Sou um grande admirador da obra de Eastwood (muito antes do celebrado Bird que garantiu valeu a admiração de quase toda a gente) mas simplesmente acho este filme bem pior que o medíocre Zero Dark Thirty (outra obra de pura propaganda da superioridade dos Americanos) e sobre este tema (snippers) prefiro de longe o Enemy at the Doors (não por um ser sovético e outro americano) mas por puras razões artísticas e formais. Agora compreendo perfeitamente o abandono de Spielberg
Para já deixo aqui a crítica com a qual até agora mais me identifico a quem isso possa interessar

Written by Jason Hall, the film is an account of the Iraq war as seen through the crosshairs of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, the real-life sniper whose four tours made him the most lethal marksman in U.S. history. Played by a bulked-up Bradley Cooper, Kyle has a patriotic cowboy swagger and keeps others, including his wife (Sienna Miller), at a distance — an ideal personality trait for someone who shoots from afar. As muddled as the film's message is at times, what's undeniable is the white-knuckle force of its opening scene. Kyle is perched on a rooftop when an Iraqi mother and child walk into the road. They seem harmless. But then the woman pulls out something that may or may not be a grenade and hands it to her son. In that terrifying split second, Kyle has to decide whether to pull the trigger. The rest of American Sniper could've used more of that moral ambiguity. But we hardly get to know how Kyle feels about what he does. (Where's his ''It's a hell of a thing, killing a man'' Unforgiven moment?) Instead, the film's just a repetition of context-free combat missions and one-dimensional targets. It isn't until the last half hour, when Kyle returns home haunted by his experience, that Eastwood finally tries to get under his hero's skin. It's too little, too late. C+

in Entertainment Weekly

Eu não vi o filme, vou apenas colocar algumas questões, que me parecem pertinentes.

Primeiro, a razão oficial pela qual Steven Spielberg abandonou o projeto nada teve a ver com questões desta história ser de maior ou menor propaganda pro americana mas com algumas divergências em relação ao orçamento do filme. Até porque Spielberg já realizou filmes onde essa propaganda nacionalista americana está mais ou menos latente.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/s ... per-599747

Também não comento se American Sniper tem muito ou pouca propaganda que exalte a superioridade americana, o que eu sei é que o argumento é baseado numa história real, num livro de Chris Kyle, e da sua vida militar e dos seus testemunhos, portanto penso que o ponto de partida também será perceber o quanto o filme de Clint Eastwood se aproxima (ou afasta) do livro. Eu desde já admito que não o vou ler, apenas vou ver o filme ao cinema quando ele estrear.

[elfaria]

Também não comento se American Sniper tem muito ou pouca propaganda que exalte a superioridade americana, o que eu sei é que o argumento é baseado numa história real, num livro de Chris Kyle, e da sua vida militar e dos seus testemunhos, portanto penso que o ponto de partida também será perceber o quanto o filme de Clint Eastwood se aproxima (ou afasta) do livro. Eu desde já admito que não o vou ler, apenas vou ver o filme ao cinema quando ele estrear.

Acho muito bem que quem o entender o vá ver ao cinema e faça depois o seu próprio juízo pois não tenho a pretensão de influenciar as decisões de ninguém. Quanto ao ...

baseado numa história real

eis um curioso artigo da prestigiada revista norte americana Time
http://time.com/3672295/american-sniper-fact-check/

[THX]

O que eu ouvi no outro dia numa reportagem sobre este filme é que tanto Clint Eastwood como Bradley Cooper se encontraram com o pai de Chris Kyle e que este quis falar com ambos antes de começarem a fazer o filme. Uma das coisas que ele disse é que o filme estava bem entregue, em boas mãos e que confiava na tarefa ao famoso realizador sabendo que este iria fazer um bom trabalho, sem deturpar grandes factos da vida do seu filho.

Esperar para ver.

[Ghost_Punisher]

filme overrated. safa-se a prestação do bradley cooper e a primeira meia-hora de filme.

não sei como está nomeado para melhor filme,só mesmo pelo patriotismo americano

[elfaria]

filme overrated. safa-se a prestação do bradley cooper e a primeira meia-hora de filme.
não sei como está nomeado para melhor filme,só mesmo pelo patriotismo americano

Concordo embora ainda seja muito cedo para "martelar" o filme pois quase ninguém ainda o viu. Aguardemos que o pessoal possa ter oportunidade de o ver e depois só então poderá ser iniciado um debate com o devido conhecimento de causa. Na América e no IMDB é um estrondoso sucesso e considerado uma maravilhosa obra prima em unanimidade absoluta (bom quase absoluta...)

ATENÇÃO SE AINDA NÃO NÃO VIU O FILME NÃO LEIA O SPOILER. Contém material extremamente corrosivo!!!

Firstly, this movie doesn't have any conceivable storyline.
On the factual basis, Iraq war had questionable goals. The war was committed on false accusation that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The war and killing of so many innocent people happened only to reveal that it was not true. In this movie, such a war was attempted to be glorified through extremely partial vantage point. The movie portrays the people who went to another country to kill others as superhumans and people who fought to protect their own country on their own land as demons. There is no gray area in the depiction. This is imprudent and ridiculous.
The broken story-line also has a lot of moral loopholes. Can a Sniper-man just decide to join the land troopers? Can they just suddenly start interrogating the civilians and then leave them unsecured to be killed?
The movie has only one clear message - God didn't create all the people equal. If you are not American, your life has very little value (if any) in comparison to an American.



I'm a big fan of American war movies, but this was horrible. It's basically Team America World Police without the self-awareness. Every American is a hero. Every Iraqi is a 'savage'. The guy invading a foreign country is a 'patriot' and the guys defending their country are 'terrorists'. No shades of grey whatsoever.
It runs way too long, which would't be a bad thing if it was interesting, but it isn't. It's the same old story of a guy changing while away at war, except he was unlikeable at the beginning and unlikeable at the end. Not that compelling.
And anyone from outside the American South will probably need subtitles as Cooper mumbled every line. Just take every mumbled word you didn't quite catch and replace it with ''Murica' and you get the idea.



Hell ya! Invade a poor country just because they don't like you! Kill them like savages and make movies to glorify your crimes through a movie like this. Prove everyone from your enemy country is a daemon including kids and woman, kill them before they even try to protect themselves. Movie tries to connect 9/11 incident with Iraq war, like we don't know the history or their news channels are successful to brainwash rest of the world too! This shows how this country is killing people since ages be it Red Indians, Germans, Russians, Vietnamese or now Arabs. Their quest to remain world power will never stop, they justify their war crimes with movies like this but please don't raise your voice else they question your Patriotism, this word "Patriotism" is the most misused term in current civilization. I am Completely disgusted after watching this movie and feeling sad for all innocent souls.


First, let me say that Eastwood's direction, Cooper's acting and the screenplay are all competent. Were this film a wholly fictional account of a warrior with special skills put in the service of his comrades it would be quite serviceable, though no more than that.
However, here was an opportunity to show the complexities of a man hailed as an American hero; and by complexities, I mean the thoroughly odious aspects of Chris Kyle's character. The man enjoyed killing people, regarding his targets as savages, and he bragged about killing looters in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - even if he didn't, because we don't know for certain, what kind of man declares proudly his murderous inclinations? In short, he was far from a good man. Dismally, you would never know this from the simple-minded depiction of him as an all American Hero in Eastwood's film.
Likewise, there is not a shred of awareness in the film that the US involvement in Iraq might have been illegal and was certainly catastrophic for the Iraqis. The film's approach is to display every Iraqi man, woman and even child as intent on murdering "good" American troops and therefore deserving of their fate, both at the end of Kyle's rifle and under the boot of American troops generally.
I don't know what Eastwood was thinking when he made this film. Perhaps he saw an easy way to make money by appealing to the misplaced patriotism of some Americans. What I do know is that this is a disgusting film.


This is absolutely terrible cinema. Not only that, it is terrible propaganda, too. People already have bad picture of Americans and their stupidity and boy this sure helps. Religious main character who is so patriotic he needs to defend the best country in the world ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET, just to call melodramatic phone calls to his wife in the middle of shootout.
Seriously, this is exactly how low you can get. I did watch Warrior (2011) and know how awful American dream movies can be, but holy damn, they did everything they could to buy all the casual and murican viewers to their side. E V E R Y T H I N G.
We even have 9/11 footage and people yelling alluha akbar on the background. Shame on every person who was in the making of this, and people who like this, please, please, try not to ruin this world any more.


Chris Kyle stated he wanted to fight terrorists, but instead they sent him to Iraq, oops wrong country, no terrorists there! - (that's Afghanistan), just some guys defending their 'weapons of mass destruction', oops, there weren't any, so just guys defending their country against invasion by a foreign force. Of course they are going to attack you and try and to blow you up! I walked out of the movie disgusted - Chris also brags about killing at least a score of looters in New Orleans in a blog or his book, did this ever some out in the movie at the end - tough price to pay for stealing, death, wow. In this case snipers are cowards, not a fair fight! Afghanistan was a justifiable war. WW2 was a justifiable war. WW1 was a justifiable war. The war on Terror is a justifiable war. Iraq was an unjustifiable war!



I went to see this movie as I have read the book also. I was expecting to see an intense action packed movie. To my complete disappointment this is simply sad. Sad in every way i could possibly think about. It is neither an action movie nor a drama, just a very weak attempt at both. The action scenes are too spread out and blended in with the a brief overview of a gut-wrenching Post Traumatic Stress Disorder soldier with a crying wife. It is Clint Eastwood's interpretation of old fashioned US patriotism and in reality it is just a mild portrait of abusive soldiering and bullying of local population. You are neither captured by the excitement of a proper war picture or feel any emotions moved by the family drama.

It portrays a simple minded Chris Kyle who is conflicted by a sense of patriotism and what his colleagues and family think about the righteousness of the war. We all know that war sucks and that soldiers are pretty messed up in the head. As if his family drama wasn't enough we are bombarded by his pseudo-edginess as a result of trauma. Clint Eastwood is too old to understand what a modern movie is all about. He does not know how to use visual effects to his advantage at all. I went too see a movie about the accomplishments of the deadliest sniper in US military history and ended up seeing a sad sad movie.

I am a big fan of American war movies like platoon or black hawk down. However, this picture was just simply garbage. Do not waste any money on this. Probably the worst performance of Bradley Cooper ever and shows that Clint Eastwood has no idea how to bring out a war epic onto the large screen. The book had loads of material for a cool movie which is probably the saddest thing ever. Clint Eastwood has successfully ravished it into what seems like low-budget piece of rubbish. The movie gives you a sense that you have been robbed by the box office. Give me my money back!


As much as I have enjoyed Eastwood's earlier work, American Sniper I believe is his weakest so far. The story is flawed from the very beginning. A true story about a Texan wannabe cowboy, Kyle, who after witnessing 9/11 decides to join SEAL and kill bad guys in Iraq! WHAT?!? Iraq which has nothing to do with 9/11? Or did he just assume that since "all Muslims are terrorist" what difference does it make if i kill them in Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya? Well, the buck doesn't stop here - and this is where i am assuming Eastwood took the liberty of giving the sniper competition between kyle and his rival arch enemy the maximum amount of screen time making it almost the main plot. Which does build some amount of tension but soon dissipates within a new york minute with a one-inch-punchy climax. Cant even begin to talk about kyle's relationship with his wife and children because it is so amateurishly executed unable to fully express his dilemma before and after the war. Cooper did make a genuine effort, his accent being the most convincing.


Clint Eastwood was always a patriotic fellow. Nonetheless he used to be able to draw a picture having in mind not only the "best country of the world" (??) but the other side of the story too. It is enough to say that he was the one to shoot "Flag of Our Fathers" and "Letters from Iwo Jima" almost simultaneously. In "American Sniper" though there is only one motto: "US rules. F... the rest". Having that in mind this is no movie but an ordinary propaganda piece destined to disappear in the oblivious and vast ocean of mediocrity. Eastwood is not even able to properly capture the inner demon of a man condemned or willing to kill more than 150 people as a sniper - which means, having them pretty close due to the power of his telescopic lenses. A shame.


I had two major problems with this movie.
The first would be that the wife character has no personality, no job, no family and no inner life. She is totally flat and all we see her do is drink some shots, read a magazine in the middle of the day and wear lingerie. After that she gets married and becomes a baby incubator for the main character. I found this one dimensional female portrayal to be so ridiculous it was offensive. If women are going to be portrayed in movies they should be more than flat cut-outs from Esquire magazine. The second part of the movie was supposed to focus on their relationship, which is couldn't do because the wife wasn't a real person.
My second problem was the child torture and death scenes. I understand that war is violent and that this movie was trying to 'realistically' portray the horror of war but I think that could have been achieved by the first two death scenes. The second child death scene was overkill and made the movie unpleasant to watch. There are far better ways to portray the horrors of war that by showing graphic violence against children. I didn't find it entertaining at all.

This movie is unrealistic, unpleasant to watch, has crappy character development and couldn't suspend disbelief for me. The editing was terrible, the story didn't flow and again, unless you like watching kids get tortured and killed I would skip this one. My husband is in the military and loves war movies and he hated this one just as much as I did. I would have given it zero stars if I could.
Another pro war movie based on lies to keep the public supporting these inhumane and illegal wars. Eastwood does the bidding of the military industrial complex in this pro-war propaganda filled movie designed to make the clueless masses shout 'hoo-rah' and support more wars overseas.
So many truths and facts that have come out about these wars and Chris Kyle are left out of the movie making it seem like war is a good thing. War is never a good thing.

This movie is not worth your time or money in my opinion. Until a movie comes out that details the facts that expose that these wars are based on lies and who the real puppet masters are sending our kids to die for a flag that has been torn to shreds by a runaway and criminal government then don't watch Hollywood propaganda.
Glorifying a cowardly murderer in order to encourage impressionable children to join the world's biggest terrorist cell is quite disgusting.
The film portrays the religion of patriotism, the only religion to still revel in human sacrifice, as if it is acceptable.
Patriotism is the refuge of the cowardly, the stupid and the evil. This killer is in all three categories.
It's unfortunate that American children don't realise that the rest of the world pities their plight as brainwashed, brain-dead victims of the world's rogue state.
Why couldn't they make a good film about the only known American hero, the amazingly courageous Chelsea Manning? Now that might help cure some of the huge damage that the US terror has done to the reputation of America.


I have read multiple reviews here calling the guy a hero. Why? Because he was an American killing people in their own country illegally? Most of the reviews that love this movie are from Americans who just seem to carry on about the heroic man. There is no evidence other than his own word that he didn't kill many unarmed civilians, but we are supposed to believe his word.
What a coincidence that the kid he doesn't kill has a bible. More American southern style Christian propaganda too. I'm from a western country and not religious, but still the glaring hypocrisy and contrived bits like that stood out. I really think someone played with the truth a bit for the child carrying a bible bit. Calling people protecting their own country savages also doesn't help your cause. Especially when tens of thousands of unarmed civilians were killed during the real war in the middle east and their families have no recourse.
Yet here they make out that the "other side" has no empathy and doesn't see from a different perspective. Any wonder this movie will be so popular when American's would still high five individuals who abused people at Gitmo (who had no trial and were mostly only protecting their own country). Mostly released after the pictures of their abuse came out (under the radar too like a country with empathy would do- sarcasm)..



I was looking forward to watching American Sniper, wow was I disappointed to find it was nothing more than a drama about PTSD told from his wife's perspective. Hard to believe it was Directed by Clint Eastwood.
Don't waste your money on the movie or the DVD. If you haven't seen "Shooter" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0822854/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4 ) with Mark Walhberg its a much better choice.
The casting was terrible, story bounced around a lot, and the entire thing was just poorly written, directed, and conceived. What should have been a great patriotic movie about an American Hero, Chris Kyle, was turned into an anti war propaganda piece that tarnished a great mans reputation and legacy.

[Hellz7]

acho que este filme tambem ira fazer bom dinheiro na Europa , especialmente devido a pessoas que sabem que vao odiar o filme mas que estarao na primeira fila para comprar bilhete , para depois poderem poderem vir espalhar o seu odio pelos malvados amaricanos disfarçado como critica cinematografica .

[No Angel]

acho que este filme tambem ira fazer bom dinheiro na Europa , especialmente devido a pessoas que sabem que vao odiar o filme mas que estarao na primeira fila para comprar bilhete , para depois poderem poderem vir espalhar o seu odio pelos malvados amaricanos disfarçado como critica cinematografica .

Ah? Nao era eu que ia gastar dinheiro so pra depois vir dizer mal, alias, raramente vou ao cinema, que acho muito caro.

[elfaria]

acho que este filme tambem ira fazer bom dinheiro na Europa , especialmente devido a pessoas que sabem que vao odiar o filme mas que estarao na primeira fila para comprar bilhete , para depois poderem poderem vir espalhar o seu odio pelos malvados amaricanos disfarçado como critica cinematografica .

Concordo plenamente!! Puro antiamericanismo primário Nem hamburgers comem fonix

Olha só um "desses" aqui a denegrir a pátria da liberdade, os USA




Este gajo devia ser eliminado pelos SEALs Team Six, mas parece que até já morreu

[Hellz7]

[Samwise]

"Temos um paraquedista, mas só salta uma vez..."

[elfaria]

Serviu pois!! Até já comprei uma bandeira americana na loja do chinês aqui do bairro para ir queimar para porta do cinema

[elfaria]

acho que este filme tambem ira fazer bom dinheiro na Europa , especialmente devido a pessoas que sabem que vao odiar o filme mas que estarao na primeira fila para comprar bilhete , para depois poderem poderem vir espalhar o seu odio pelos malvados amaricanos disfarçado como critica cinematografica .

Mais uma campanha anti-sniper "amaricano" ------ Não aconselhável a quem tem intenção de ir ver o favorito a oscar para melhor filme

http://cinema.sapo.pt/atualidade/notici ... vo-de-gozo


Reconheço que é muito atrevimento da minha parte "malhar" assim no trabalho de um conceituado realizador (que muito admiro) mas recordo agora que esta não é a primeira vez que Eastwood me desilude. Já aconteceu o mesmo antes com os esquecidos Every Which Way But Loose de 1978 e Any Which Way You Can de 1980 como actor e Heartbreak Ridge de 1986 como realizador. Nessa altura deixei passar pois Clint ainda não tinha atingido o estatuto de (autor) consagrado de que usufrui actualmente. Mas lá que são mauzitos isso são... acho eu
Mas eu sou muito suspeito pois um dos meus filmes favoritos deste autor é nada mais que o mal amado J. Edgar (2011) que eu acho mesmo muito bom, e ao fazê-lo Eastwood provou ter mesmo muita coragem ao retratar assim cruamente o lado hipócrita de um ícone quase intocável da américa

[rui sousa]

Ora bem, fui ver hoje o dito American Sniper, e deixo aqui três pontos que considero essenciais no filme:

- A grande questão da história não é se se trata de um filme de propaganda, ou de um manifesto anti-bélico (há grandiosos filmes partidários que não perdem essa beleza por causa das suas ideias, não preciso de estar a mencionar o Couraçado ou as experiências da senhora Leni, n'é?). Porque American Sniper não é uma coisa nem outra, e é isso que mais irrita nele, já que ao mesmo tempo, quer ser tanto um filme a favor da guerra como um filme a favor da paz. E no entanto, acaba por ser nada, porque é uma série de cenas desleixadas, sensaboronas, desinspiradas, duvidosas, que podem ter óptimas intenções, mas que não têm ponta por onde se lhe pegue.

- Causa-me uma profunda e furiosa tristeza ver o mestre Clint fazer um filme às três pancadas como este (filmado, provavelmente, nos intervalos das jogatinas do golfe), sem qualquer tipo de apuro técnico e visual como vimos noutros filmes - e mesmo comparado com o resto da vaga pós-Gran Torino, geralmente desprezada pela maioria das pessoas, há um padrão estético que aqui se desfez completamente, para agradar às exigências que este produto necessita (bolas, o Jersey Boys dá quinze a zero a isto!).

- Clint diz que este filme tem mensagens pacíficas. Até pode ter, mas não é isso que interessa, porque não são as intenções ideológicas, sociais ou whatever de um filme que ditam a qualidade do mesmo. É muito estranho, contudo, ver que o homem que fez um dos retratos mais coerentes e complexos do mundo da guerra (no díptico Flags/Iwo Jima), tenha deixado rebaixar-se para realizar isto. Porque nem o trabalho de um tarefeiro o Clint soube fazer.

[PanterA]

Que treta de filme.

O Eastwood sempre meteu aquela porção de patriotismo nos seus filmes, e mesmo aí até os fez bastante competentes e (muito) bons - nada contra - mas este aqui atingiu um ridículo demasiado grande para ser verdade. A maneira como eles nos tenta impingir um anti-herói, ou neste caso até foi mesmo herói, à descarada como aquilo que ele tivesse a fazer fosse a coisa mais natural do mundo é brilhante. Passar mais de 2 horas a ver razões e mais razões, com desculpas atrás de desculpas, como um simples pretexto para enaltecer o ego americano e aceitar aquilo como um simples facto de estar na vida, está quase ao mesmo nível da lavagem cerebral que se fazia na WWII nos regimes ditatoriais ás massas.

Mas o cúmulo dos cúmulos ainda foi adulterarem por completo factos com a introdução de cenas que consegue atingir um outro tipo de ridículo, e que só vem dar ainda mais ênfase aquilo que refiro no parágrafo em cima.
Depois o resto do filme, parecem colagens de cenas feito nas horas vagas (tal como o Rui disse). Tudo muito simplório, sem mestria ou engenho. Mesmo o Cooper é um pauzinho sem sal que para ali anda. A sua nomeação, como todas a outras que o filme recebeu, deve ser mesmo para rir.

3/10

PS: A cena do bebé foi só mais uma para o monte de cenas ridículas.