Star Wars - Trilogia Original vai voltar a ser lançada

DREAMASTER · Post by **DREAMASTER** » May 18th, 2006, 9:09 pm

Edward Brock wrote:Escândalo:

Well... things are a little interesting around here today.

We've confirmed something today (directly with both Fox and Lucasfilm) that we'd begun to suspect... and it's probably going to disappoint a lot of you. It certainly disappoints us here at The Bits. Those new DVD editions of the Star Wars films? The original theatrical versions of the films are going to be non-anamorphic (our original post on this indicated otherwise, but we have confirmed that the widescreen versions will be letterboxed only). What this likely means is that Lucasfilm has simply re-purposed the non-anamorphic transfers that were done for previous laserdisc and VHS releases of the "original" versions of the films. And with that, our enthusiasm for this DVD release has just dropped through the floor. Anamorphic-enhanced versions of the theatrical editions, we'd buy in a heartbeat. But what we're going to get instead is little better than a ported-over laserdisc. In this day and age, releasing a widescreen film without anamorphic enhancement on DVD is just unacceptable. Does Lucasfilm really think fans want those versions of the films on DVD so badly that people just won't care? Yes Virginia, they do. How many versions of these films do you suppose Lucasfilm will try to get fans to buy in high-def over the coming years? And think about it... you just know the studio has to be prepping yet another standard DVD release for next year's 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars. Do you suppose this means that the theatrical editions won't be included in the super-über box set of all six films? Probably. Ugh.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa120.html#emp

Se for assim, então por mim bem podem ficar a apnahar pó nas prateleiras das lojas.

nmoc dvd · Post by **nmoc dvd** » May 19th, 2006, 10:16 pm

Sim, de facto, não anamórfica e tudo, ainda por cima, não sei não !!

Estas edições vão ser limitadas, como já se sabe, mas e será que para o ano, para a comemoração dos 30 anos, a tal (provável) nova Box-set, irá trazer também as 3 versões originais, e se sim, será que não serão estas mesmo, sem qualquer melhoramentos !?

Não estou a ver o Lucas, agora a dar-se ao trabalho de fazer qualquer tipo de melhoramento aos filmes originais, se já não os fez !!

Agora, o que me dasapontou mesmo são as capas, então estas são praticamente iguais ás da box, já existentes, quando li inicialmente a noticia, pensei em algo mais classico, mais "vintage", e o 1º filme, ainda vem com o titulo de Epiode IV - A New Hope !!?

Reparem bem nas diferenças, de como vão ser, e em como deveriam ser:

Star Wars

The Empire Strickes Back

Return Of The Jedi

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » May 19th, 2006, 11:51 pm

O Donnie Darko ja nos tinha esclarecido essa questão das capas...

nmoc dvd · Post by **nmoc dvd** » May 20th, 2006, 10:21 am

Shivers wrote:O Donnie Darko ja nos tinha esclarecido essa questão das capas...

Certo, eu também já vi que esta nova montagem das capas é uma tentativa de aproximação aos posters classicos, mas não tem nem metado daquele feeling original !!

E depois são os logos dos titulos dos filmes, estes não têm piada nenhuma, são todos iguais, iguais aos das edições já existentes, e que por sua vez, são iguais aos da "nova" trilogia.

Eu queria era ver os logos distintos para cada filme, como originalmente sairam no cinema, isso sim !!

Isto, exatamente:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ ... Blinen.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ ... july05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ ... jmar06.jpg

[Editei-te o post porque imagens deste tamanho desformatam isto tudo. Além de que nem dá para ver em condições aqui, mais vale que o pessoal clique no link para as ver. Skywatcher ]

Argaroth01 · Post by **Argaroth01** » May 21st, 2006, 8:13 pm

O Império Contra-Ataca ainda tem um poster muito melhor que esse usado para a capa...

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » May 22nd, 2006, 12:43 pm

2006 DVD Releases:

From 12 September to 31 December 2006, the original trilogy will be released for a limited time on DVD. For this particular DVD release, each episode (IV, V, and VI) will be sold individually and feature two discs: one which holds the 2004 Special Edition of the episode and a second "bonus material" disc which holds the original, unaltered theatrical release of the episode. This is an extremely surprising move, considering George Lucas has stated in the past that the original editions would not be released on video again after the Special Edition's release. Due to the great demand for the original editions on DVD, however, Lucasfilm is, for a limited time, finally releasing DVDs of the original editions of Episodes IV, V, and VI.

The original editions will be presented as they were first shown theatrically. For example, Star Wars will have the original opening scroll before "Episode IV: A New Hope" was added for the April 10, 1981 re-issue, the "R" in "rebel spies" was lower cased originally, and line spacing and form were altered to fit the revised title. Each original edition will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround audio, closed-captioning, and subtitles in English, French, and Spanish for the U.S. release; sound and subtitling for foreign releases will vary by territory.

2007 Definitive Editions (Blu-ray):

Lucas has hinted in the past, and it is most likely assumed, that he will release his definitive (often called "archival") editions of all six of his Star Wars films on a next-generation home-video format in 2007. This release would coincide with, and celebrate, the 30th anniversary of the Star Wars saga. It has been speculated that he will take this opportunity to make any final adjustments, changes, additions, and/or subtractions to his films for this final release.

It is said that this edition will be released in a "saga" box set, and the home video format will most likely be Blu-ray, as 20th Century Fox, as well as he himself, have said they prefer this format. Lucasfilm Vice President of marketing Jim Ward confirmed that in this final release, Lucasfilm is likely to return to John Lowry to do even more work on the films (possibly digital contemporization of the original trilogy). He says "As the technology evolves and we get into a high-definition platform that is easily consumable by our customers, the situation is much better, but there will always be work to be done."

Producer Rick McCallum, as well as Ward, have also explained that they have been holding back a large amount of bonus material for this release, including deleted scenes, as well as numerous previous Star Wars "making-ofs," spin-offs, television specials, Documentaries etc.

Obs: Atenção que estes dados são relativos a uma possivel edição, nada de oficial mas é mais certo do que provável num futuro próximo.

2007 3-D edition
At a ShoWest convention in 2005, George Lucas demonstrated new technology and stated that he is planning to release all six films in a new 3-D film format, beginning with A New Hope in 2007.

Edward Brock · Post by **Edward Brock** » May 22nd, 2006, 4:09 pm

Shivers wrote:
2007 3-D edition
At a ShoWest convention in 2005, George Lucas demonstrated new technology and stated that he is planning to release all six films in a new 3-D film format, beginning with A New Hope in 2007.

Update: ao que parece afinal será o Episode I a sair primeiro.

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/stor ... _98598.asp

In the magazine Popular Science's June 2006 issue there's an article called "Return Of The 3D". The article features the work of a couple of companies working on transforming 2D movies into high tech 3D films, without the "distortions that cause your brain and stomach to revolt."

Specific quotes from the article include...

"...Lucas is expected to release a fully 3-D version of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace next spring."

"The staffers put on pairs of thick glasses and watched as clips from Star Wars were played. Suddenly the screen itself seemed to dissolve away, as scenes stretched out toward the audience. Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi's faces grew closer to viewers as the characters prepared to chase a would-be assassin. Pod cars buzzing in the background really appeared to be hundreds of feet away ... Soon, the Jedi Master himself came in. George Lucas sat down, put on the glasses and, within a few minutes, passed judgment: 'I'm sold! I'm sold!'"

There's a bit more, and the article highlights a couple other big-name directors, and some major companies (including ILM) and the technologies being used to turn many movies (not just Star Wars) into big-screen 3D films.

I recieved my issue of Popular Science in the mail, I'm not sure if it's hit stores yet. Also, a web version of the article is still not available on the Popular Science website.

But yeah, seems like we can expect 3-D Star Wars in theaters next year!

Para além disso acho difícil as versões originais sairem com a edição do 30º aniversário mas com o tio George nunca se sabe.

Gollum · Post by **Gollum** » May 22nd, 2006, 9:12 pm

Tudo no original é o que se esperava, pra quem comprou as edições alteradas...azar.
São técnicas comerciais para fazer render o peixe totalmente legítimas; só cai na rede quem quer.

Wickedbug · Post by **Wickedbug** » May 22nd, 2006, 10:58 pm

Incrível, é espremer as tetas da vaca do dinheiro até n poder mais. Qualquer dia sai um pack hiper mega especial q faz vibrar a cadeira e tem cheiro a Chewacca

jgeiras · Post by **jgeiras** » May 23rd, 2006, 12:06 am

Gollum wrote:pra quem comprou as edições alteradas...azar.

olha que não.
quem não comprou as edições alteradas, não levou o excelente dvd de extras, da box

Nuno Guerreiro · Post by **Nuno Guerreiro** » May 23rd, 2006, 6:18 pm

Gollum wrote:Tudo no original é o que se esperava, pra quem comprou as edições alteradas...azar.
São técnicas comerciais para fazer render o peixe totalmente legítimas; só cai na rede quem quer.

Que eu saiba o original, que saiu no cinema é imagem anamorfica...

nmoc dvd · Post by **nmoc dvd** » May 23rd, 2006, 11:00 pm

Wickedbug wrote:Incrível, é espremer as tetas da vaca do dinheiro até n poder mais. Qualquer dia sai um pack hiper mega especial q faz vibrar a cadeira e tem cheiro a Chewacca

nmoc dvd · Post by **nmoc dvd** » May 23rd, 2006, 11:04 pm

Nuno Guerreiro wrote:
Gollum wrote:Tudo no original é o que se esperava, pra quem comprou as edições alteradas...azar.
São técnicas comerciais para fazer render o peixe totalmente legítimas; só cai na rede quem quer.
Que eu saiba o original, que saiu no cinema é imagem anamorfica...

Isso não sei, se era anamórfica !?

Mas era widescreen, isso sim, e estas "novas" edições em DVD ao que parece vão ser com a imagem em widescreen, mas em formato letterbox, isto é, na prática um 4:3, só com as riscas pretas em baixo e em cima, corrijam-me se estiver errado !!

Bem, dá sempre para o pessoal "ampliar" a imagem, e fica adaptado ao ecrã 16:9, acho eu !

Edward Brock · Post by **Edward Brock** » May 24th, 2006, 10:59 am

Se fosse tão simples quanto isso ninguém se dava ao trabalho de editar DVD's em 16:9. É que ao fazeres zoom a imagem perde MUITO detalhe.

Nuno Guerreiro · Post by **Nuno Guerreiro** » May 24th, 2006, 3:53 pm

nmoc dvd wrote:
Nuno Guerreiro wrote:
Gollum wrote:Tudo no original é o que se esperava, pra quem comprou as edições alteradas...azar.
São técnicas comerciais para fazer render o peixe totalmente legítimas; só cai na rede quem quer.
Que eu saiba o original, que saiu no cinema é imagem anamorfica...
Isso não sei, se era anamórfica !?

Mas era widescreen, isso sim, e estas "novas" edições em DVD ao que parece vão ser com a imagem em widescreen, mas em formato letterbox, isto é, na prática um 4:3, só com as riscas pretas em baixo e em cima, corrijam-me se estiver errado !!

Bem, dá sempre para o pessoal "ampliar" a imagem, e fica adaptado ao ecrã 16:9, acho eu !

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/technical
Aqui diz q é anamorphic. E 4:3 com riscas pretas por baixo e cima é bem diferente de anamorphico.