SVS subwoofers

siroco · Post by **siroco** » December 13th, 2005, 11:52 am

Cochinada, então e o Monolith ?

Manuel · Post by **Manuel** » December 13th, 2005, 11:54 am

Este ficava a matar com as minhas colunas.
Pena que não caiba no trenó ($$$) do Pai Natal.

Falp · Post by **Falp** » December 13th, 2005, 12:10 pm

Ficava a matar quem?

Manuel · Post by **Manuel** » December 13th, 2005, 12:25 pm

Falp wrote:Ficava a matar quem?

Os vizinhos do andar de baixo.

Falp · Post by **Falp** » December 13th, 2005, 12:31 pm

E dos lados...

Ou afugenta, como o canino do Jorge Campos...

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 1:24 pm

siroco wrote:Cochinada, então e o Monolith ?

Hehe...sabes como é quando vamos fazendo upgrades mentais? Pois estou nesse processo

Estive a fazer umas pesquisas. Na realidade o Monolith perde ligeiramente para o PB10 que é o modelo mais baratucho da SVS. Agora podes imaginar o que não serão os PB12

. Infelizmente a série Ultra não é exportada para a Europa bem como assim os famosos cilindros

Mas um PB12-Plus por exemplo deve dar uma violenta ratada a qualquer REL Strata e Storm e fica por uns €1000 aproximadamente já com transportes e taxas.

Krell · Post by **Krell** » December 13th, 2005, 4:53 pm

Talvez o PB12 dê violenta ratada ao Rel, nao sei, nunca ouvi o SVS, mas será que tem qualidade de um storm?
A minha mulher tem na cozinha um subwoofer logitech (de computador) para ouvir graves quando tem o exaustor ligado, eu cá prefiro ouvir o som no meu storm 5, ambos sao potentes mas com som diferente.

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 5:32 pm

Bose 601 - III,

Já foste ao AV Forums? Talvez encontres lá a resposta à tua própria pergunta

.

Krell · Post by **Krell** » December 13th, 2005, 6:08 pm

Claro, já li tudo a respeito dos SVS inclusive em tempos deixei a indicação neste forum do link onde comprar os svs ao melhor preço.

Krell · Post by **Krell** » December 13th, 2005, 6:13 pm

http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb10_isd.htm

Foi esse o link que deixei, página 4 do tema do sub xls 200 - grande compra

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 8:15 pm

Esse é o mais fraquinho deles. Eu estou a falar nos PB12.

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 10:34 pm

Manuel wrote:Este ficava a matar com as minhas colunas.
Pena que não caiba no trenó ($$$) do Pai Natal.

Estou à espera de confirmação de portes directamente do fabricante. Se eles aceitarem enviar, o que ainda não está 100% claro para mim, sai bem mais barato que comprando por exemplo no AV sales

P.S.
Com as tuas Nautilus acho que um PB12-Plus vinha mesmo a calhar

Manuel · Post by **Manuel** » December 13th, 2005, 10:44 pm

cochinada wrote:
Manuel wrote:Este ficava a matar com as minhas colunas.
Pena que não caiba no trenó ($$$) do Pai Natal.
Estou à espera de confirmação de portes directamente do fabricante. Se eles aceitarem enviar, o que ainda não está 100% claro para mim, sai bem mais barato que comprando por exemplo no AV sales

P.S.
Com as tuas Nautilus acho que um PB12-Plus vinha mesmo a calhar

Se conseguisse convencer a minha patroa...

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 10:51 pm

Então mas aquilo é lindoooooooooooo

.
Até tens vários acabamentos possíveis. Cita-lhe apenas isto:

"...our box subs offer low height, stylish end-table utility and finishes ranging from basic black, to drop-dead gorgeous real wood veneers and piano gloss. ..."

P.S.
Não lhe fales é no peso ou no tamanho

cochinada · Post by **cochinada** » December 13th, 2005, 11:14 pm

Bose 601 - III wrote:Talvez o PB12 dê violenta ratada ao Rel, nao sei, nunca ouvi o SVS, mas será que tem qualidade de um storm?
A minha mulher tem na cozinha um subwoofer logitech (de computador) para ouvir graves quando tem o exaustor ligado, eu cá prefiro ouvir o som no meu storm 5, ambos sao potentes mas com som diferente.

Extraí estee posts daqui:

"I recently sold my Strata 5 after owning it for four months. I demoed the Storm 5 & it is a definite step up. I think the £200 extra is worth it. BUT the initial £800 is NOT, if you get my meaning . I replaced my Strata with a 2nd hand SVS, which cost me the same as I sold my Rel for, & the SVS goes much deeper with less distortion at a MUCH greater output. I would call the Rel ST. range bass speakers rather than subwoofers, since they don't give out a lot of real low stuff.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattTheBeanster
Hi Guys,
but I have a thing for Rel.

You're not the first. Rel have done an excellent job with their marketing in convincing people that they are buying the best in subwoofers. The ST range would be good if they were several hundred pounds cheaper. If you can get a good second hand one that will be better value. They are fine if you can get them second hand AND you can't accomodate something bigger. If you can get something larger, then I feel for sure you can get something better for your money when buying new & probably second hand.

What you are paying for with Rel is a) the name, b) remote control with memories & digital displays (believe me, once you have set your sub up properly you really won't need these), c) ABC driver overload protection which would not be needed if they put decent sized amps in them.

There are others out there apart from SVS & BK. The Axiom EP500 was tested by some forum members against an SVS & came out tops see here http://www.avforums.com/forums/showt...0&page=1&pp=15 . Not sure how much that costs tho. Also, I've heard people talk about the Mackie HRS120, which has come down a lot recently to £700 - £800.

There are loads other may recommend. Most of the forum members have owned Rel's and moved onto soemthing else, so just beware of the whole prestige thing of owning a Rel, IMO it can be short lived"

e...

"My Strata 5 didn't even get abywhere near 20 hz. I never measured the Strata, but I have measured the SVS. My SVS, in my room, starts plummeting at 20hz. 22hz is played with absolute ease with no dip in response.

In terms of using the ears - I played Mariah Carey's new album on the SVS when it was first setup, & it's got some really low notes on there, & the SVS just spat them out. Just before selling my Rel I played the same piece on it & the lowest notes just disappeared, they just weren't there. The SVS also reproduced deep bass drums in guitar music MUCH cleaner & deeper & more controlled than my Rel.

I was worried the SVS would be good for movies, but not as good as the Rel for music, especially since I couldn't afford to keep both. I was wrong. The SVS beat it hands down, no contest on both. The SVS is MUCH cleaner.

The only sub in Rel's ST range that would get near 20hz I would think would be the Storm 5, but I don't think that would either, perhaps nearer 25, who knows. As Ian has often mentioned the ST range will only get down to any depth if it is in a room that exaggerates the real low frequencies.

For the price of the Storm 5 I think you could get a serious sub that will surpass the Storm 5 for music & movies."